[Magnulus @ Nov 9th 2007 4:41AM]

Is it just me or is that Sony-talk for "we lost"?
Shame, really. All I wanted was for the format with the most storage space to win... Also, this puts any future PS3 purchase into kind of a limbo.

[nxtiak @ Nov 9th 2007 5:13AM]

Why would it? If Blu-Ray lost it will be for movies. Sony will still publish PS3 games on Blu-Ray.. just like PSP uses UMD, the only thing it uses and supports. And there are Blu-Ray drives you can buy to burn your stuff onto it..... but then again, why would you do that? It'll go the way Zip drives would :)

[Garst @ Nov 9th 2007 5:28AM]

@nxtiak

I think he thinking a little be more on the long term plan. If blu-ray does lose out the movie fight, it wouldn't be wise to continue making games on the format because any future console would also have to have a blu-ray drive to have any backwards compatability. So if they go to HD-DVD in the future for games, they'll need to put a combo drive in the system which would be expensive. Microsoft on the other hand, though they won't admit to it, was wise when they dicided to stay with DVDs for games. That way they wouldn't have the same problem that Sony is likely will face.

[Serengeti @ Nov 9th 2007 6:27AM]

@garst

Minor quibble with your argument, but:
Combo drive expensive? I don't think so. The media is the same size and composition, and the PS3, as a gaming system, replaces all the software side of a typical disc player. And it's modifiable, so any difference in software required to read an HDDVD could easily be written in.

The only combo players out there are expensive only because they need to include both sets of firmware and manage the two.

[Static @ Nov 9th 2007 7:20AM]

Sony isn't the last say on Blu ray. People still cannot get it wrapped around their heads that while sony has power in the BDA they were only given so much because they were willing to put their money where their mouth was.

But I am not going to even get into that subject but rather ask, if anyone knows the ratio and amount of disks sold outside of the US. I think those will paint a big picture as well.

[Rususeruru @ Nov 9th 2007 11:00AM]

To my knowledge HD-DVD is outselling Blu-Ray outside of the US. It would help the Blu Camps cause if there were only 1 standard and Panasonic & Sony would stop bickering.

[Spider1981 @ Nov 9th 2007 2:20PM]

@Rususeruru
I have read from numerous sources that HD DVD is being outsold by a margin upwards of 4:1 (and in some cases much higher) by Blu-Ray in other countries. I have also read that the United States is one of the only countries where Blu-Ray is being matched so closely by HD DVD in sales.

[teej @ Nov 9th 2007 3:41PM]

@nxtiak,

i believe Magnulus' reason for possibly purchasing a PS3 is the cheap-Bluray-player factor.