His comment about OSes is why I'm holding off upgrading anything until Windows 7... superficial changes indeed. While I don't think that non-computer illiterate friendly OSes are necessarily the best route, all recent OS updates seem to just be prettier, 'cooler'.
"Computing these days is a race between programmers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe, striving to build bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."
RE: "rather than a procession towards a UI that works "for someone who knows nothing about the computer.""
Doesn't this comment show that Woz is out of touch?
The amount of people who know nothing about computers was a huge percentage of the population in the 1970s when Apple was founded, and Woz mattered, but these days many people are either in a demographic that has grown up with them or are older people who use them every day at work and became familiar that way. Ergo, there number of people "who knows nothing about the computer" is practically zero ... at least in the first world.
To make a major change in how operative systems works would affect probably every application running on it. And that is not done in a heartbeat. One got to accept the fact that from the 80s to the 90s the change in possibilities were extreme - but now the new possibilities in every generation isn't that huge.
But the small changes are more important. Like backup with time machine. Could it be any easier for the typical mom and dad to keep the digital photos safe? I bet most families does not have backups. Just that small addition to a operative system is an huge improvement in the usage of a computer.
I've had this for my Windows machine for 5 years. It's called "GoBack". I guess Apple took a "Time Machine" back a few years, saw what Windows developers were doing then, and came back to the future to "innovate".
"The amount of people who know nothing about computers was a huge percentage of the population in the 1970s when Apple was founded, and Woz mattered, but these days many people are either in a demographic that has grown up with them or are older people who use them every day at work and became familiar that way. Ergo, there number of people "who knows nothing about the computer" is practically zero ... at least in the first world."
This may in fact be Woz's point : he may in fact be saying 'its stupid to expect updates to make the OS easier, because we're as easy as it needs to be, and this is why the OS doesn't sell computers anymore'
Why are people interpreting it the other way? Do they know about some context I don't
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His comment about OSes is why I'm holding off upgrading anything until Windows 7... superficial changes indeed. While I don't think that non-computer illiterate friendly OSes are necessarily the best route, all recent OS updates seem to just be prettier, 'cooler'.
"Computing these days is a race between programmers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe, striving to build bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."
-Rich Cook
RE: "rather than a procession towards a UI that works "for someone who knows nothing about the computer.""
Doesn't this comment show that Woz is out of touch?
The amount of people who know nothing about computers was a huge percentage of the population in the 1970s when Apple was founded, and Woz mattered, but these days many people are either in a demographic that has grown up with them or are older people who use them every day at work and became familiar that way. Ergo, there number of people "who knows nothing about the computer" is practically zero ... at least in the first world.
To make a major change in how operative systems works would affect probably every application running on it. And that is not done in a heartbeat. One got to accept the fact that from the 80s to the 90s the change in possibilities were extreme - but now the new possibilities in every generation isn't that huge.
But the small changes are more important. Like backup with time machine. Could it be any easier for the typical mom and dad to keep the digital photos safe? I bet most families does not have backups. Just that small addition to a operative system is an huge improvement in the usage of a computer.
I've had this for my Windows machine for 5 years. It's called "GoBack". I guess Apple took a "Time Machine" back a few years, saw what Windows developers were doing then, and came back to the future to "innovate".
"The amount of people who know nothing about computers was a huge percentage of the population in the 1970s when Apple was founded, and Woz mattered, but these days many people are either in a demographic that has grown up with them or are older people who use them every day at work and became familiar that way. Ergo, there number of people "who knows nothing about the computer" is practically zero ... at least in the first world."
This may in fact be Woz's point : he may in fact be saying 'its stupid to expect updates to make the OS easier, because we're as easy as it needs to be, and this is why the OS doesn't sell computers anymore'
Why are people interpreting it the other way? Do they know about some context I don't