I guess it makes sense. The math does not work out, and so far this "disc" is as credible and existent as the 8 layer Blurays with 200GB. Its a theoretical and practical possibility, but not even close to production.
Andy, so adding an extra layer on a HD-DVD is just as credible as adding 5 on a BD? Sounds like a bit of fanboyism to me. Sounds like the BD group are really sh*tt*ng their pants lately.
The math DOES actually work out if 17GB layers are used, which is what the proposed 34 and 51 GB discs do. By changing the pitch a little bit, you can get that kind of capacity. It's currently unknown, but believed that a firmware update could allow current HDDVD owners with early players to watch the 17 GB layer discs.
Who cares if 51GB HD-DVD trumps BD... that's as far as HD-DVD goes... end of the line. Whilst BD will go way beyond, all the way to the finish line at 200GB. .|. HD-DVD .|. Toshiba
Actually, BD can't even manufacture 50GB discs. Due to manufacturing problems (pooling), which I'll bring up as many times as I have to until people get it, they can't even do a full 50GB. They're pretty much maxed out at 45GB--and most Blu-Ray discs are single layer...which are usually maxed at around 22GB for the same reason. But you think they're going to get to 200GB? Insiders claim yields for dual-layer Blu-Ray are still at only 50%! What do you think their yields would be like if they shot for another layer?
Nope--there's nothing magical about a 50% yield. It's just trial and error--split down the middle. Half of them fail. Half succeed. The yields are 50% for dual-layer according to insiders on avsforum. And, actually, those are Sony's yields. Other manufacturers are, reportedly, having less luck and are getting 10% yields for dual-layer. I'm not trying to add FUD here. Honestly, that's the word from insiders on avsforum. Go there and look for yourself.
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I guess it makes sense. The math does not work out, and so far this "disc" is as credible and existent as the 8 layer Blurays with 200GB. Its a theoretical and practical possibility, but not even close to production.
Andy, so adding an extra layer on a HD-DVD is just as credible as adding 5 on a BD? Sounds like a bit of fanboyism to me. Sounds like the BD group are really sh*tt*ng their pants lately.
I'd be shitting myself if I had support from nearly every major corporation too.
The math DOES actually work out if 17GB layers are used, which is what the proposed 34 and 51 GB discs do. By changing the pitch a little bit, you can get that kind of capacity. It's currently unknown, but believed that a firmware update could allow current HDDVD owners with early players to watch the 17 GB layer discs.
Who cares if 51GB HD-DVD trumps BD... that's as far as HD-DVD goes... end of the line. Whilst BD will go way beyond, all the way to the finish line at 200GB. .|. HD-DVD .|. Toshiba
Actually, BD can't even manufacture 50GB discs. Due to manufacturing problems (pooling), which I'll bring up as many times as I have to until people get it, they can't even do a full 50GB. They're pretty much maxed out at 45GB--and most Blu-Ray discs are single layer...which are usually maxed at around 22GB for the same reason. But you think they're going to get to 200GB? Insiders claim yields for dual-layer Blu-Ray are still at only 50%! What do you think their yields would be like if they shot for another layer?
Honestly, if it ain't compatible with any of the HD-DVD players currently on the market 51GB HD-DVD is useless. Same as 200GB Blu-ray disks.
Also, I thought that the stance of the HD-DVD group was that the 50GB that current BD offers is pointless?
Well, a large portion of current BD movies are 50gb, with higher bitrate sound and video, so more space means less compression.
@Dave - So how do you explain the large number of movies on dual layer discs? Magic?
Nope--there's nothing magical about a 50% yield. It's just trial and error--split down the middle. Half of them fail. Half succeed. The yields are 50% for dual-layer according to insiders on avsforum. And, actually, those are Sony's yields. Other manufacturers are, reportedly, having less luck and are getting 10% yields for dual-layer. I'm not trying to add FUD here. Honestly, that's the word from insiders on avsforum. Go there and look for yourself.